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Tuesday 7 July 2015

Rainsy Says VN Border Map Shows Intrusions


Ahead of a meeting between Cambodian and Vietnamese border officials in Phnom Penh on Monday, opposition leader Sam Rainsy said Sunday that the CNRP’s digital copy of the border map had now been set up to work with GPS technology and had already revealed misplaced border posts in Svay Rieng province.
Speaking after a ceremony at the CNRP’s Phnom Penh office to mark the anniversary of the 1997 factional fighting, Mr. Rainsy said the opposition could now take the GPS coordinates of border posts they visit and see if they lie on the true borderline.
“We have the map, and there is only one map [mandated] in the Constitution. I tested the digital map last night, and we have found a few boundary posts that have been planted inside our Cambodian territory,” Mr. Rainsy said.
“We can go to any disputed boundary post and take the coordinates from the post and put them on the digital map and the map will tell us if the post is in Cambodia or in the neighboring country. This is evidence that cannot be denied.”
Contacted by telephone afterward, Mr. Rainsy said he had entered the GPS coordinates for border posts 184, 185, 186 and 187—which should lie along the border in Svay Rieng province—and found they in fact lie inside Cambodia.
“Since I had collected the coordinates of those four posts, I used our new method and obtained the result that the four posts were inside Cambodian territory,” said Mr. Rainsy, who lived in exile in France between 2009 and 2013 to avoid criminal charges that stemmed from his uprooting marker 185.
“It was not really far in, only about 100 meters from the border,” he said. “This would not be the most serious of the border post incursions. Other Cambodian farmers have claimed they have lost more land than that, so now we can go and check those.”
In a radio interview broadcast by Voice of America on Sunday morning, Var Kimhong, the chairman of the Joint Border Committee, said he still did not believe Mr. Rainsy possessed the correct map mandated by the Constitution.
Despite a campaign by the CNRP, the government has refused to publicly release the official map of the Cambodia-Vietnam border that it uses to place posts. Mr. Kimhong said it was unlikely Mr. Rainsy found the right one.
“I do not think that the map that Sam Rainsy has is the original map because France did not print any more maps after 1955,” Mr. Kimhong said. “I think some people are using new maps to incite people to give support to them.”
“But this is not a good answer,” he continued. “The good answer is that we need to do negotiations quietly.”

Mr. Kimhong’s committee, which comprises officials from Cambodia and Vietnam and is tasked with demarcation, is also set to meet Monday for the first time since the recent flare-up of complaints about Vietnamese encroachments into Cambodia.
Mr. Kimhong said by telephone that the meeting that had been scheduled for Siem Reap City has now been moved to Phnom Penh, but declined to comment on where exactly it would take place or what issues Cambodian officials would raise.
Mr. Rainsy and the opposition party have repeatedly accused the government of refusing to release its official border map because it has been using illegal Vietnamese-drawn maps that place the borderline inside Cambodian territory.
The second article of the 1993 Constitution says that only the 1:100,000-scale map developed by the French colonial authorities and fully recognized by the U.N. in 1969 can be used by the government to determine Cambodia’s borders.
Ou Virak, a political analyst and founder of the Future Forum think tank, said that the government ought to end the dispute with Mr. Rainsy by releasing its official border map to allow for transparency and scrutiny during demarcation.
“Var Kimhong should release the map. They need to learn to be honest with their own people, and to earn their support. In situations where we lose land, or swap land and villages with Vietnam, the people need to know,” he said.

19 comments:

Karl [Kalonh] Chuck said...
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Karl [Kalonh] Chuck said...

It doesn't have to be 100 meters of encroachment/intrusion, even an inch or one centimeter is enough to prove that the HUN SEN CPP-Viet regime, durant the past 30 plus years had duped, cheated, and lied to the Khmer people and THE WORLD. And [lightly put] that is enough to hang HUN SEN and the rest of his partners in crime, isn't it? Let a crime be a crime and the criminal(s) brought to justice!!!

Kal [ខាល]

Anonymous said...

Thank you Kal.

I agree, this traitor should be hanged and drag back to Vietnam for treason. This traitor and his band of crimminals have killed countless innocent Khmer over the 30 years of ruling, abusing human rights and turn the country into a country of demoralising society.

It is ironic that this traitor now ask the UN for support. What game is this traitor playing now?

Anonymous said...

Begin of Drgunzet's comment.

Wrong, I bet there are cases Cambodia intrudes into Vietnam too but Sam Rainsy won't say it. You cannot use the new modern GPS technology to rework on something already agreed on and worked on in the old day. A treaty is a treaty; an agreement is an agreement.

What would other countries do with their border settles hundred of years ago? Would they demand to use GPS and redraw their borders?

Khmer do not go to school much and could not graduate much, so let me tell you folks a story. In my University, there was this one professor who would regrade the whole paper if any student challenged him over one of his mistakes.

He said, "If I make a mistake in you favor, you would not come to me and say: Oh professor, you made a mistake, you gave me more points than I deserve. Please take some points off my paper."

Then he added, "I will regrade the whole paper and you might get a lower grade after all."

If CNRP continues to challenge at the border, I warn you: Cambodia might lose more land as Vietnam will demand payment for rescuing Cambodia in 1979. Mr. Hun Sen might had negotiated to reduce the payment. If you act stupid, Vietnam will demand payment in full.

There are things you don't know. You are not in the know, stop following Sam Rainsy blindly or you folks will be owned again.

-Drgunzet-

Anonymous said...

Remember people, we trusted the Youn for hundreds of years, we have now lost Prey Nokor. After the 2005 land treaty we also lost Koh Tral.

One way to know if the Youn is a good Youn is to make sure the Youn is a dead one.

Anonymous said...


THE UN MUST MAKE A COPY OF CAMBODIA MAP.

DO NOT GIVE THE ORIGINAL COPY TO YUON AND HUN SEN. THEY WILL DESTROY IT OR THEY WILL SAY THE MAP GOT LOST. THEN WHAT CAN THE UN DO?

DON'T TRUST THE EVIL YUON.

CHHARY

Anonymous said...

A Youn Drgunshit's (Drgunzet's).

First, those treaties between A Youn's puppet CPP in 1985 was under Vietnamese OCCUPATION. In international laws ANY TREATY UNDER FOREIGN OCCUPATION IS ILLEGAL. That was why 19 countries including People Socialist Republic of Vietnam and Thailand 1991 Paris Agreements. Those countries void any treaty that violated Cambodia sovereignty. Then Cambodia 1993 constitution Article II " Any treaties that lost Cambodia territories or under foreign occupation is void. Also ONLY 1:100,000 SCALE be recgonized as legal under our constitution. Youn and CPP used 1:50,000 scale and duped our parliamentry MP and king that it was 1:100,000 scale. King father knew and refused so Hun Sen after came back from Hanoi threaten to abolish monarchy.


Second, Cambodia don't your Vietnamese barbarians anything. VC helped created and infiltrated Khmer Rough. Youn involved in Cambodia genocide also but most was Khmer faults. Youn only came in to topple Pol Pot thinking most Cambodian population was wiped out hoping for another Kampuchea Krom. Your Youn troops came in 1978 and looted everything from car, junk yards, furnitures, GOLD BARS AT CAMBODIA NATIONAL BANK RESERVES, GOLD of jewelry, gold relic such Buddha statues, airplanes that were parked at Phnom Penh and Battambang. I saw Youn mechanics worked on dozen of Fokker , ATR turboprop, Turbines engines and flew back to Youn country. CPP paid Youn for 3 decades and 1 large Koh Tral, 3 smaller islands. We don't owe you jack shit.


Third, through out history ONLY Youn steal Khmer land not the other way around. Do you think Youn would let Cambodian steal i inch of their hard gain stolen land ? Lol.

Fourth, CNRP was not looking to redraw map dating back century. CNRP only interested 1969 UN recogonized legal map. If CNRP goes back hundreth year all central to southern tip of Youn land belong to Cambodia. Lol. Cambodian are not stupid as you think. Kept on under estimate us you will find out the truths one day. Even Hun Sen still Khmer. China will crush Youn soon even with America helps.

Anonymous said...

Begin of Drgunzet's comment.

"UN must make a copy of Cambodia map"....

Loser Khmer, why can't you even make a map? You are useless.

What can you make now a day, Garment, rice and some prahoc? That's it? Losers, go learn some more skills and stop making troubles.

-Drgunzet-

Anonymous said...

So said the dog shit consumer aka shitnamese.

Have you had some dog shits lately, shitnamese ?

Sincerely,
STUPID youn...

Anonymous said...

Kal [ខាល],

We read your comment at the post of the U.S. Ambassador Todd William that you are against gay and lesbian people in the U.S. that they used to put their lives in uniforms and went to battle fields to promote the democracy in the world. The world has been protected because of the U.S. Military polices. Without the U.S., the world will be messed. until today. We need you to watch your words. The U.S. have so much freedom, rights and democracy not only in her country but around the world.

We can not believe you have made fun of those who have sacrificed so much to the world, WWI, WWII, and so on.

Thank you for your understanding. We want Cambodia to be more open minded and bullies to gay and lesbian people in America and around the world. Cambodia is the most friendly, open minded, and so on earth.

Don't be like a womanized man!

Anonymous said...

CORRECTION for 7 July 2015 at 21:24

We want Cambodia to be more open minded and NOT bullies to ANY gay and lesbian people in America and around the world LIKE BRITISH, ETC.. Cambodia is the most friendly, open minded.....


WE LIKE YOU, KARL. PLEASE JUST BE KIND! YOU ARE A GOOD MAN.

Anonymous said...

You tosser drgunzet. You claim to be smarter than everyone here. Well go and learn proper grammar fuck face. What the fuck is troubles. You stupid fob go back to your mummie's vagina and let the khmer have a proper discussion with your lame insults and comments.

Anonymous said...

And yes prahoc is khmer traditional food even it smells bad but it tastes good and delicious.every body like it and what your Yuon can do is eating dog and pho.hey drgunzet do u want to taste prahoc come and taste in Cambodia we always welcome you,Yuon boy.of course prahoc is like khmer girls it tastes delicious than your ugly Yuon girls! Get it!khmer is so amazing!!

Anonymous said...

I wonder why YUON take Cambodian land because millions Of YUON come to make a living in Cambodia freely and all of main brand government under YUON control especially military and police Or YUON just play dump and tell the world ((Cambodia is run by Cambodia government)) Because all that YUON was change to Khmer NAME. It's YUON trick Cambodia pass sport made in Hanoi what is that?

Anonymous said...




-Drgunzet- @
7 July 2015 at 18:52

Stupid motherf**ker, any country can make a map!
The problem is other countries and the world don’t recognize it.
You are a useless stupid motherf**ker!
Get the f**k out of here, stop embarrassing yourself, dumb motherf**ker!



Karl [Kalonh] Chuck said...

7 July 2015 at 21:24, & 7 July 2015 at 21:28.

It's never meant to mean as suggested, but it has now been modified. Thanks.

Kal [ខាល]

Anonymous said...

Begin of Drgunzet's comment.

https://www.facebook.com/rainsy.sam.5/photos/a.521085964614808.1073741829.520708567985881/697563456967057/

Sam Rainsy wrote:
"And when it comes to ensuring the survival of Cambodia as an independent nation, there is a saying as old as the world: the enemy of my enemy is my friend."

Sopha Nhep replied:
"I agree with Alfa Omega about Cambodia foreign policy. Under king Sihanouk and Pol Pot, China's best friend, China fail to protect Cambodia from the killing field and Vietnamese's invasion....

Our fist priority right now is to fight for justice ,freedom and democracy for our people, so the democracy's world, the asian community and especially the U.S is our best friends and allied that can help us accomplish our mission. Your Excellency please reconsider your stand, thanks."

-Drgunzet-

Anonymous said...

Yes, it's in the Viet's gene!!! -Drgunzet-, a racist Vietnamese!!!

Topix › China › Drgunzet is a chronic liar and Vietna...
Drgunzet is a chronic liar and Vietnamese racist !!!


http://www.topix.com/forum/world/china/TOG5KCV6KL2TSDTQG

Take a look!!!

Anonymous said...

Hey, serve your master tea & don't you spill it. You know you are good for one thing, 3 heads to cook tea.